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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.28 23:11:00 -
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Okay the official Jericho Fraction position on the RKK vs PA war.
Earlier this evening Jericho Fraction became aware of military engagement between our firm allies in Reikoku corporation and the fighters of the Venal Phoenix Alliance.
In answer to our questions on the why? We were told that CDI corporation (PA) had broken the terms of the ceasefire previously announced by Halseth Durn (the outgoing PA representative) by openly travelling to Tribute region and directly flaunting the order to cease and desist such transit made by the PA council.
PA statement on CDI sanction
In reaction to this and failing to receive any satisfactory response on the issue of the ceasefire breach, Reikoku corporation had declared a resumption of the previously extent declaration of war and open hostility.
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Within Jericho Fraction the opinion is quite plain that CDI have breached the ceasefire terms and in our own pilot eye-witness accounts, as well as negotiations with PA directly admitting this breach, we are convinced that PA must now eject CDI for wilfully breaking the terms they signed up with to end the previous state of conflict.
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However, Jericho Fraction is not a knee-jerk outfit of reactionary gun-jumpers and we have pledged a 24 hour pause for negotiation before committing our support the correct and just cause in this matter. (the 24 hour period officially began at 20:00 eve time and will conclude at 20:00 tomorrow).
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Until then we have commanded our pilots not to initiate hostilities with PA corporations and forces in the area or otherwise seek confrontation with such.
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We call on the Phoenix Alliance to do what was promised two weeks ago and control your rogue corporations. Here on these forums Halseth Durn made pledges in the name of the Pheonix Alliance corporations that certain kinds of actions and activities would not be accepted from CDI corporation.
Well this pledge has has been forsworn in action and the time has come for Pheonix Alliance to take action to clean its household or admit that it has absolutely no intention of doing so.
I understand the frustration and anger of Reikoku corporation that the ex Forsaken Empire pilot "Havorcide" was given a ship and sent in CDI colours to taunt them in Tribute in direct contravention of the sworn ceasefire.
This represents perfect justification for the war they now fight.
But JF wishes one last effort to resolve this without a wholesale slaughter in the north.
For the interests of everyone in these regions:
Robeyone and Ronacorp.
Please do what you promised to do.
Eject CDI or leave the Pheonix Alliance yourselves to set an example to your wayward comrades.
As honourable men these are your only options.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.29 01:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Reassor
awesome ... piratehunters[RKK] fighting anti-pirate alliance with EVOL on thier side awesome :P
and ok u can flame me ... but u can break me:P u can call me noob but thats not hurt :P
so in couple days we will see EVOL/RKK and probably M0O on 1 side and PA on teh other side ... thats just RKK style ;]
Edited, No flaming please -Zhuge Liang
Reassor,
Please take the advice of your elders and betters and end the pointless smack talk. The issue here has been clearly laid out so simply that only an idiot couldn't see it:
1. CDI committed acts of aggression and piracy against allies and neutrals in the Tribute region. This has been admitted by the PA leadership.
2. As a result of these acts RKK corporation declared war on the PA several weeks ago.
3. In reaction to that declaration PA (under CDI direction) attacked the Fade Union.
4. Conflict was averted and full compensation paid by the PA and CDI to Fade and RKK while CDI was bound by public oath to behave itself. The evidence of this pledge is on this forum and linked from my earlier post.
5. CDI broke the ceasefire terms.
6. Complaint was raised which was ignored.
7. War has been declared again.
These are facts Reassor. Deal with them or leave the talking to people who can.
Now I personally want to see Rona corporation keep the pledge that was made to me in direct voice communications not two weeks ago, that if CDI broke the ceasefire terms just agreed then either they would be booted from the PA for good or Rona corporation would itself leave as a gesture of condemnation on the behaviour of its PA allies.
This was a simple promise made to me and I want to see it kept.
Otherwise I will know for sure that I am dealing with men of no honour.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.29 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Thesalaus
Edited by: Thesalaus on 29/05/2004 01:10:40
So Jericho Fraction, RKK and Evolution are going to war with the PA because a couple CDI pilots where spotted traveling through Vale? I guess war is war no matter how petty the excuse.
Oh well, lets all have fun on the battle field.
Thesalaus, are you saying to me now that the word of your alliance means nothing?
Are you further saying that a promise made to me in direct communication from leading diplomats of the Pheonix Alliance means nothing?
Because if you are then I spit on your pretensions of legitimacy and truly declare you have no right to condemn any other corp in Eve for lack of honour.
A given word is sacred Thesalaus, and if yours means nothing then you are a man of no worth at all.
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Posted - 2004.05.29 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Maya Rkell
I'm saying you knew that hiring him would raise the tensions in an allready tense area.
I've SEEN, with my own eyes, a CDI pilot in Tribute. Given the PA's laughable inability to keep their word I'm surprised this war has taken this long. You've been a knife at our back for months, and now you're surprised when we turned round and stabbed YOU.
And I'm saying you're telling me not to make judements when you're judging us. Dosn't work that way.
Very well if that one CDI pilot you saw in tribute bugged you so much then war it is. As for the knife in your back, we are the PA, you are getting us confused with the NVA.
If you are indeed talking of some such knife in your back after the formation of the PA then please enlighten me. And when I say enlighten, I dont mean incidents where we have apologised and compensated for any mistakes we may have made.
I don't know why you are having so much trouble with this Darken Two. Read this
Wherein your alliance bans CDI from taking certain actions.
CDI took those actions.
PA have done nothing.
You are at fault here. Now certainly you have the right to say "ha ha, whatever, you were idiots for believing we would keep our word anyhow."
But you don't have the right to have the high moral ground while saying that.
And no, I don't think anyone is confusing you with the NVA, since that alliance actually had principles (until you helped kill it that is).
Fundimentally how difficult is it for you to keep your word?
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Posted - 2004.05.29 02:44:00 -
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Darken Two,
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... So if I read your post right ...
No I believe you failed to grasp what I said to you, try again.
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And Jade Constantine, I can also provide you with a link for the PA forums which we adequately advertised, where you could have posted a complaintbut, you chose not to.
And I can (and have) provided you with a link the thread in question and a complaint in that thread and no PA action. Your bureacratic process means nothing to me. Your failure to keep your word means everything.
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Asking for 10 sec response times for every small thing someone says is ridiculous. If you fell strongly about this issue please feel free to post a complaint on www.newvenal.org. Complaints will be dealt with if you do so.
Nobody asked for 10 sec responses. We wanted you to keep your word. You have thusfar failed.
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Also on a seperate note I understand RONA is the biggest corp in the PA but they are not all there is. I dont understand how the personal assurances of RONA members can be taken as the public stance of the PA. So next time please refrain from posts about how you have the ear of the RONA ceo and thats all that counts.
Darken Two lets be honest here. Rona and CDI are all that counts pretty much in the PA. Rona have the numbers and the reputation. CDI has the money and the mercs. If you are in the PA you are beholden to either one or the other. Don't try to fool me Darken. I know Copiae Dius from the time I admitted you to the NVA. You are a smallish corp that got in on personal recommendations. PA is a collection of a lot of little corps and a couple of superpowers. So when the CEO of the largest and most respected PA corp tells me that CDI will either be booted from the allaince for an infraction of the ceasefire *or* he will take his corp out of the PA, I take him at his word and consider that a word of honour.
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Posted - 2004.05.29 17:10:00 -
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Aerick Dawn is telling the truth. Battlestars had broken NAST rules on the governance of that station. I saw a chatlog affirming that was the case. If a PA corp cannot keep NAST rules it makes absolute sense that FU should be trusted to do it.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.29 19:02:00 -
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Easily answered Shar Gath.
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And Jade Constantine.... Please tell me, why are you going into EVERY topic about PA/NAST while you or your corporation, telling the truth, does not have anything to do with it as you are not a side of a conflict even if you want to 
You don't actually have a clue what is going on do you? But I will spell it out for you. Jericho Fraction sticks by our allies. PA doesn't.
Well, at the end I think you should keep on entertaining us, thats the only way Jericho can act - on the forums..
Blah blah blah.
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Posted - 2004.05.29 19:28:00 -
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[Reverend Necrona]
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Jade i think people stopped taking JF seriously after the NVA darling.
Are you sure thats actually people you are talking about and not the muppet show?
;)
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Posted - 2004.05.31 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bobo Cadobo
Haha. You realise that RKK represents the worst fighters in the game?
Best runners, I might add.
Never seen RKK sitck around for a fight.
Oh my lord! RKK condemned by a pointless forum alt, whatever will you do?
;)
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